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Transportation Roundtable



Tennessee is blessed with a vibrant transportation and logistics industry, thanks to its central location, the routing of interstates and the presence of important inland waterways. Business Tennessee brought together some of the leading experts in the field to discover what the future holds for those in the industry and how that future will affect customers.

We found serious worries about new federal hours of service regulations that took effect in January. These regulations reduce many truck driver’s driving time by an hour a day and require drivers to count as hours worked the time spent refueling and on loading docks.

More salutary—even if disruptive—effects on transportation and logistics are seen in the emergence of the giant manufacturing capacity of China. And post-9/11 security concerns are exerting new pressures, some of which are being handled nicely by state-of-the-art technology. These topics and more are fodder for our roundtable members, who include:
*Dan Martin, senior vice president of sales and customer service for Ingram Barge Co., a Nashville-based operator of more than 4,000 barges and towboats
*Lloyd Rinehart, director of the Ph.D. program in logistics at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville
*Wayne Spain, chief operating officer of Averitt Express, a Cookeville-based freight transporter with 80 service centers across the Southeast, Canada and Mexico
*Alex Vergos, senior technical advisor for FedEx Services, responsible for implementing the IT systems, hardware and software that support package sorting at the Memphis company’s hubs
*Bob Whaley, senior vice president of distribution, transportation and logistics for Goody¹s Family Clothing, a 335-store apparel retailer based in Knoxville


The five participated in a late January telephone conference call with Business Tennessee Editor David A. Fox. The edited transcript follows.

Business Tennessee: Bob, why don’t you start by sharing your thoughts on what the new hours of service regulations mean to your company?
Bob Whaley: Sure. Without a doubt, we¹re going to be incurring somewhere between ten to fifteen percent in additional charges. These [additional] charges are primarily not going to come from inbound freight because a tremendous amount of ours is truckload. We’re a drop and hook operation—drivers drop off trailers that Goody’s unloads—so we don’t anticipate any additional costs from that standpoint. However, we do feel like there could be costs incurred at the shipper end through delays in loading these trailers. We deliver all of our stores through a third party that we have contracted out; they’re not trailer loads or drop and hooks, they’re milk runs. And in order to get those trucks back, rather than increasing the fleet, we’ve had to increase drivers. We’ve put a lot of teams on these trucks, so we can get these trucks back without violating the hours of service. So it’s going to cost that much more to deliver to the same number of stores.


BTN: Wayne, how will this affect Averitt’s driver productivity and costs?
Wayne Spain: It’s probably too early to tell for us. Many of our runs are mostly there-and-back type runs. It’s only in the milk runs, in the long haul, over the roads that are affected by this. The dedicated milk runs have definitely been affected, but we have not seen very much of a detrimental impact on our particular situation as of yet. Driver wait times are certainly a topic of discussion for us. But it really opens up a dialogue between us and the customer on how can we do this more efficiently. The drop and hook trailer situation is one-way; and then we’ve seen customers change their operation in order to not get into the hours of service. We’ve seen many carriers talking about raising their rates, raising their stop charges—those type things—but we haven’t done that yet.


BTN: Lloyd, you talk with people in the industry all over the country. What other impacts are you seeing from the hours of service change?
Lloyd Rinehart: All these things are going to affect industries differently. Take the automotive industry as an example: you know the impact of loading and unloading isn’t going to have much of an effect there because the people in the shipper companies historically have done the loading and unloading. But if we look at the grocery industry, that’s a very different circumstance. In the grocery industry, unloading responsibilities were the responsibility of the carrier, and in some of those deliveries, it can take hours to unload a trailer. Consequently, I think the food industry may try to change some of the technologies that they use to minimize some of those loading and unloading times. But if you change that technology, there is going to be a fixed cost associated with that. Then there are going to be people who require slip sheets (thick sheets of plastic that can take the place of wooden pallets) as a mechanism to speed up the process, but that also requires new types of slip forks, and that type of thing. And when you go that route, are our companies, which are coming out of what I’ll loosely term a recession, going to be in a position to make those types of investments?


BTN: What happens if companies now begin rebuilding their inventories to keep up with an expanding economy just as the new limits on drivers’ service time have kicked in?
Spain: We have seen a definite up-tick in business in the truckload sector that’s been going on since probably October. We’re in the process of putting on additional equipment and hiring drivers. We’re expanding our capacity.
Whaley: I’d like to ask Wayne a question, if I could. A lot of the things that I’m reading and hearing suggest the LTL (less than truck load) carriers may get an advantage with these new hours of service because you’ve got a longer drive time involved. Is that right?
Spain: I would agree that the possibility is there when you go from ten hours to eleven hours, but it’s probably a little early in the game right now to know that that is for sure.


BTN: With so much of the manufacturing sector using just-in-time systems that permit smaller inventories on hand, how does that fit into these restrictions?
Alex Vergos: What we’re finding is that customers are now looking to us for some options as to how to manage that just-in-time arrival and control of items from multi-origins. We have responded with a product called InSight that allows them to see their entire shipping view across FedEx Ground and FedEx Express. They can take items from multiple origins, scheduled into one area, and they can manage, trace and view their inbounds and outbounds using the InSight product. Now, you drop in your account number and you see a view of everything that is coming and going.


BTN: How much is this dependent upon wireless technologies?
Vergos: Actually, all of our FedEx tracking. We use it for our ring scanners, in our sort and our ramp and our hub operations. We use a ring scanner; therefore the employee is not tethered to any electronic device. They’ve got the device on their wrist that allows InSight to display if your package has gone through the hub. If your package is held for some reason—say, inclement weather—the scan that came from that wireless device tells us about it.


BTN: Continuing a bit more on the wireless side, which technologies are you finding most useful right now when it comes to tracking packages?
Vergos: 802.11 (an industry standard for wireless local-area networks) is used right now in our ramps and hubs. Actually, every aircraft when it parks in a gate gets an IP address. Maintenance talks to the airplane through that 802.11 link. We use that same 802.11 network to dispatch off-load employees to unload the aircraft. Bluetooth (technology designed for communications between small portable devices) is not so heavily used in those type locations; however we do have Bluetooth rolling toward our PowerPad product, which is going to be distributed to 40,000 express couriers. It’s in beta-testing right now. Bluetooth technology allows that PowerPad to talk to the van, to unlock the van, to transmit scans when it approaches the van, so the courier is no longer dependent on scanning at the customer’s door or location and then dumping the scans. It’s an automatic thing using Bluetooth. The PowerPad basically puts the customer’s touch point right there with the courier, which puts us in near real-time scanning. So the FedEx customer that uses InSight knows pretty nearly where the package is.


BTN: Let’s segue into security issues post-9/11 and hear what technologies are helping monitor activities on the transportation channels. Dan, what are you seeing?
Dan Martin: First of all, we have satellite communications on board all of our towboats that operate on the inland river system, and we’ve had them for several years. That’s been very effective in the post-9/11 era where security has become a bigger issue. [Homeland Security officials] want to track what they refer to as “certain dangerous cargoes,” cargoes in barges that might be able to be used as explosives and things of that nature. We have a new security plan requirement, whereby we have to submit a plan to the Coast Guard, and implement training for our crew members on boats in how to be aware and understand what the risks are and what to do in the event of a situation. We have been able to utilize some of the satellite communications and the way we communicate through the Internet to our customers, utilizing that platform to communicate the whereabouts of our barges that have cargoes that they might have interest in tracking.


BTN: I would imagine that post-9/11 issues have had a big impact on liability insurance costs and legal costs. Is that the case?
Martin: We’ve certainly seen an up-tick on insurance rates, post-9/11—very significant, double-digit increases in some cases.
Spain: We also have seen an increase in insurance premiums. All the carriers in our business are facing those costs. Not to mention, when we talk about insurance costs and 9/11, I know we’re not talking about health care, but our health care costs are also going through the roof as well.


BTN: Lloyd, earlier Wayne mentioned a better dialogue emerging between shippers and customers as a result of the new hours of service regulations. More broadly, in terms of supply chain management, do you see any trends in the amount of cooperation between parties?
Rinehart: Well, you know supply chain management has been an industry buzzword now for several years and yet, you’re correct, one of the underlying premises of supply chain management is the importance and inclusion of collaboration or cooperation between parties. And you see sporadic examples of it, but my take is that there is a lot more talk about it than there is reality. People talk relationships and cooperation until the money really gets involved. Then when you start talking in financial terms, suddenly the bottom line is the final measure. So, I think it’s important that firms look at how to achieve that bottom line, or at least components of that bottom line, while recognizing that there is a bigger piece of the pie out there. This bigger piece is not just total cost to each individual organization, but also the total supply chain cost that helps to create the best economic output for our economy as a whole. That’s a challenge.


BTN: A major trend facing all businesses is the growing manufacturing capacity of China. What effect is that having in the transportation business?
Martin: It’s interesting. As an example, we see that China has got somewhat of an insatiable appetite for iron ore and that is taking up much of the blue water capacity, which is causing ocean shipping rates to skyrocket here recently. But the silver lining for the barging industry is that since ocean freight is being taken out of circulation, the U.S. coal industry is able to export coal through the U.S. gulf more effectively because the differential between the ocean freight out of South America into places like Europe is more beneficial. So there’s a positive to what we’re seeing there, on the inland barging side. We’re able to move export coal, which had pretty much all but dried up until this year.
Spain: There’s an uncertainty in the freight industry. The tonnage that was once coming from the states is now coming from abroad. And with the exception of a few industries, there’s not many people who are building plants and manufacturing in our part of the country anymore. So it’s caused us to really shift our operating models. The old LTL model is under intense pressure, and we’re having to go to the ports with de-consolidation services, consolidation services. It’s changed our way of looking at our industry, quite frankly. You’re going to see LTL carriers getting more into the warehousing business, more into the inbound, import, export business, versus the traditional LTL shipments from one city to the other. We’re just seeing those industries leave and go abroad. That means that tonnage is coming out of our network. We’re becoming more of a consumer distribution model versus the old traditional LTL model.
Vergos: At FedEx, we have really seen an increase in our flights to and from Asia, and that goes back to the just-in-time shipping business. We are really seeing that a lot of product is coming out. We are focusing additional lift and additional aircraft in that area, which has been a very positive thing for us.
Whaley: It’s a somewhat scary thing to realize what’s probably going to happen in the next few years, particularly in the apparel sector of the economy. You’re seeing less and less manufacturing of apparel in this country, and now that China has joined the World Trade Organization, quotas are going to be done away with. This means there’s going to be continued deflation of prices in the apparel business, and there’s going to be more and more going to that part of the world. China is the largest populated country in the world. They have an unlimited labor supply. So, I see much more going to that sector of the world, and much more tonnage coming in, and it’s not just the apparel. We’re seeing the same thing happen in electronics, in the computer industry. One of the things that we did not think would happen as little as five years ago is the technological ability of the United States being transferred to Asia. But you see that happening, too.


BTN: Lloyd, how big a topic is this in the Ph.D. logistics program you run?
Rinehart: It’s a very big topic. In fact, I’m finding more and more of our Ph.D. applicants are interested in linking logistics and supply chain studies with global and international studies. As well as at our undergraduate and master’s levels, we’re seeing more of an international type orientation toward the educational experience. For example, in the old days, the approach to teaching international subjects was to have a course in international marketing, international logistics or whatever. Now we’re integrating those as applications throughout the curriculum.


BTN: Dan, you were speaking about some of the effects of the Chinese trade and the enhanced demand for inland waterways transportation. In what kind of shape is the waterways system to handle greater volumes?
Martin: We have a very aging infrastructure with our locks and dams that are on the inland river system. Since 1986, the barge companies have contributed approximately $1.6 billion to the Inland Waterways Trust Fund, and we really haven’t seen that come back in the full investment that we were promised. Under the Water Resources Development Act, the funds in the trust fund were meant to pay for one-half of the cost of new construction and major rehabilitation of the locks and dams. These contributions are generated by a 20-cent tax on diesel consumed by our towboats, and it’s deposited in this trust fund. The other one-half of the cost is to be paid from the general revenues. Both the Clinton and Bush administrations have not been funding the projects of building new locks and dams. So this money in the trust fund, a little bit over $400 million now, is not being utilized. To give you a case in point, we have a lock structure near Huntington, W.Va., called the Greenup Locks and Dam, which was supposed to go down for a 19-day closure. Well, they found once they got the chamber de-watered that they needed to do major rehabilitation and they took this lock structure out for 56 days. We had towboats, loads of coal and whatnot, sitting for two to three days, each way, every day. The industry took a huge financial hit. More locally, the Chickamauga Lock just beyond Chattanooga is very old and could see a failure at some point in the future, which basically would cut off all river trans portation beyond Chattanooga, to say, Knoxville. So there’s a real concern, and we’re trying to make everybody in Washington aware that we need to have these projects funded.


BTN: Speaking of Washington policies, Dan, what do you think of the return of the investment tax credit?
Martin: Through the investment tax credits that were available in the late 1970s, barges were being built for the wrong reasons and weren’t needed. So, the industry became overbuilt, and when barges are built, they last for 25 years. So we had an oversupply of equipment for quite a long time. As part of Bush trying to jumpstart the economy a couple of years ago, he re-introduced a form of the investment tax credit that encouraged the building of things like this. We are very much against that kind of tax policy.


BTN: Very interesting issues. Thanks for participating.

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